Giants gave up 1 INT, and had 3 fumbles.
Giants couldn't move the ball on the ground.
Lions make good with their 27th ranked passing game against the Giants.
Lions win their second in a row under new head coach Moeller.
Lions were up 28-0 early in the third quarter.
Lions win gives them a wildcard tiebreaker edge with the Giants.
Giants drop to second place in the NFC East.

Another loss Gamegirl.
"Do they have to lose the home games so badly? It's getting too cold to be looking up at the scoreboard and seeing a score like 28-0. I guess a lot of the fans feel the same way because you could have had the stadium to yourself if you wanted. Maybe I should start a petition for Team Giants to buy me a fur coat - fake fur of course - for these games. I'm still rooting for the Giants, but I'm starting to feel that it would be better if they get into the playoffs without homefield advantage. Haven't they lost most of them at home? It sure seems like it. It would be better for me anyway."

Three of the Giants four losses have come at home.
"See, there you go. Maybe Mikefan has it right, watching on the big screen. I hear they even had close-ups of Jason Sehorn running out of his pants. What more could I want? Of course, then you have to put up with the full screen version of that grumpy look Fassel has on the sidelines when things aren't going right. They should blow that up and hang it in the locker room for the players. Maybe it would help."

We're sure they've seen it a few times.
"I really don't know what to tell you about this game. I was expecting to see a good close one with some ups and down, but once again it was like the Giants couldn't ever get started until the Lions let them. Once they started playing 'prevent' to keep the Giants from making a big play, the Giants were able to move the ball at the expense of the clock. This game really was over after that 28-0 score, and I probably should have left with the rest of the fans. They play in sunny Arizona next week. Maybe I should start going to the away games instead."

Any bright spots?
"Tiki Barber is our one bright spot and has been all season. He runs, and catches, and does special teams. He's in every game, but he can't do it all himself. He's our best player on offense. I guess we also have to be happy that the Giants are 7-4, and should hopefully get into the playoffs, one way or another. I'll feel less cold and all tomorrow. As a Giants fan, you have to keep the spirit. You know they never make it easy on us."

A new star is born.
"Right, it's like I said a few weeks ago, the Giants make stars out of opposing players, and this week it was Lions quarterback Charlie Batch. Last week the Detroit fans were calling him Charlie Botch, and rooting for him to be lifted from the game in favor of Stoney Case. He was completing less than 45 percent of his passes before this game. This week the Giants make Batch a standout quarterback, able to pass, run if necessary, and command his team to an easy victory. It's really amazing how good a quarterback can look with the lack of a pass rush coming at him."

The Giants drop to second place in the NFC East.
"That hurts, and they're in second place to the Eagles, a team they beat twice. Also, now Detroit owns a 7-4 record, the same as the Giants, and would win a head-to-head tiebreaker for a postseason spot. Tampa Bay and New Orleans also lost, and that helps, but there are only 5 games left. The Giants are suddenly a team that can't run the ball, and can only pass if the other teams decides to let it happen because the game is winding down. Special teams are getting worse. We're even getting blocked punts now. Nobody wants to see the Giants finish at 7-9 like last year, but four turnovers and 10 penalties for 103 yards isn't very inspiring."

Special teams has been a killer all year.
"They're getting worse every week. That blocked punt put the Lions at the Giants 8 yard line. One punt was returned 50 yards to the Giants 28 yard line. Another return went to the Lions 39 yard line, but a holding penalty forced another punt, and this time it was to the Giants 29 yard line. We don't even want to talk about Tiki Barber's 67 yard punt return. He got it to the Lions 18 yard line, but a holding call brought it back to the Giants 9 yard line. They fumbled a kickoff return. There was more, and you can't march through the playoffs with poor special teams. That might not be a problem for the Giants the way the Giants are going, there might not be any playoffs for them."

Stats

Passing
Giants - Kerry Collins 29-51 for 351 yards, 2TDs, 1 INT.
Lions - Charlie Batch 20-32 for 225 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT.

Rushing
Giants - Tiki Barber 8-30, Kerry Collins 3-18, Ron Dayne 4-5.
Lions - James Stewart 22-52, Charlie Batch 4-30, Mario Bates 8-20, Johnnie Morton 1- (-7).

Receiving
Giants - Amani Toomer 8-108, Tiki Barber 8-99, Pete Mitchell 5-71, Thabiti Davis 1-27, Joe Jurevicius 2-23, Ike Hilliard 1-19, Greg Comella 2-5, Daniel Campbell 1-2, Howard Cross 1- (-3).
Lions - Johnnie Morton 6-78, David Sloan 2-39, Herman Moore 4-38, Walter Rasby 2-17, James Stewart 2-16, Cory Schlesinger 1-13, Mario Bates 1-11, Larry Foster 1-7, Brian Stablein 1-6.

Interceptions
Giants - Dave Thomas 1 for 0.
Lions - Kurt Schulz 1 for 14.

Kickoff Returns
Giants - Omar Stoutmire 3 for 51, Bashir Levingston 1 for 27, Reggie Stephens 2 for 29.
Lions - Desmond Howard 3 for 66, Brock Olivo 1 for 0.

Punt Returns
Giants - Tiki Barber 3 for 38.
Lions - Desmond Howard 2 for 80.

Fumbles lost
Giants - Tiki Barber, Kerry Collins, Bashir Levingston.
Lions - Charlie Batch 1.

Opponent's fumbles recovered
Giants - Michael Strahan 1.
Lions - Robert Porcher 1, Luther Elliss 1, Jeff Hartings 1.

Missed field goals
Lions - Jason Hanson 44.

Tackles-assists-sacks (unofficial)
Giants - Jessie Armstead 9-6-0, Michael Barrow 8-5-0, Michael Strahan 5-2-0, Shaun Williams 3-4-0, Dave Thomas 6-0-0, Sam Garnes 4-2-1, Jason Sehorn 4-0-0, Christian Peter 1-3-0, Ryan Phillips 3-0-0, Cornelius Griffin 2-1-0, Keith Hamilton 1-2-0, Cedric Jones 2-0-0, Ryan Hale 2-0-0, Emmanuel Mcdaniel 2-0-0.
Lions - Stephen Boyd 6-3-0, Terry Fair 4-2-0, Lamar Campbell 3-3-0, Robert Porcher 5-0-3, Kurt Schulz 5-0-0, Bryant Westbrook 4-1-0, Chris Claiborne 3-2-0, James Jones 4-0-0, Allen Aldridge 3-0-0, Marquis Walker 3-0-0, Corwin Brown 1-2-0, Ron Rice 1-2-0, Jared Devries 1-1-0, James Hall 1-0-1, Scott Kowalkowski 0-1-0, Luther Elliss 0-1-0.

Net yards rushing
Giants - 53
Lions - 95

Net yards passing
Giants - 321
Lions - 219

Time of Possession
Giants - 26:07
Lions - 33:53

Scoring:

1ST QUARTER:
NONE
2ND QUARTER:
DET - Walter Rasby 5 Yard TD Pass from Charlie Batch (Jason Hanson Extra Point), 14:12. Detroit 7-0
DET - James Stewart 1 Yard TD Run (Jason Hanson Extra Point), 9:22. Detroit 14-0
DET - Herman Moore 7 Yard TD Pass from Charlie Batch (Jason Hanson Extra Point), 0:25. Detroit 21-0
DET - Jason Hanson 19 Yard Field Goal, 7:38. Detroit 31-14 NYG - Joe Jurevicius 13 Yard TD Pass from Kerry Collins (Brad Daluiso Extra Point), 1:47. Detroit 31-21
3RD QUARTER:
DET - Johnnie Morton 32 Yard TD Pass from Charlie Batch (Jason Hanson Extra Point), 11:34. Detroit 28-0
NYG - Kerry Collins 4 Yard TD Run (Brad Daluiso Extra Point), 7:14. Detroit 28-7
NYG - Daniel Campbell 2 Yard TD Pass from Kerry Collins (Brad Daluiso Extra Point), 0:22. Detroit 28-14
4TH QUARTER:
DET - Jason Hanson 19 Yard Field Goal, 7:38. Detroit 31-14
NYG - Joe Jurevicius 13 Yard TD Pass from Kerry Collins (Brad Daluiso Extra Point), 1:47. Detroit 31-21

Notes:
Kerry Collins threw for a career-high 350 yards for his first 300-yard game this season and the 8th of his career.

Kerry Collins ran for one touchdown.

Ike Hilliard had only one catch and left the game with a bruised sternum.

Amani Toomer had 8 catches for 108 yards, making it the 4th game in a row the Giants have had a 100-yard receiver. Last time was in 1953.

Giants had just 53 yards rushing, 30 by Tiki Barber, 18 by Kerry Collins and 5 by Ron Dayne.

Detroit rushed for 95 yards. It was the first time this season the Giants allowed less than 100 yards rushing and lost.

Next Game
Nov 26, Giants at Arizona 8PM

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